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Traditionalist Fr. Chad Ripperger Critiques Traditionalism July 21, 2021 Dave Armstrong

I've now written three  manufactures related to Pope Francis' document, Traditionis custodes:

Pope Francis'Traditionis Custodes is for the Sake of Unity [seven-xvi-21]

Skojec LoathesTraditionis; Illustrates Why information technology is Necessary [7-19-21]

Catholics (?) Trash, Judge, & Mind-Read the Pope (In 1968, "all" the liberal Catholics rejectedHumanae Vitae. Now in 2021, "all" the cocky-described "conservative" Catholics pass upTraditionis Custodes —and none encounter the outright absurdity and irony of this) [7-20-21]

The commencement analyzed Traditionis itself. The second illustrated that fifty-fifty well-known reactionaries like Steve Skojec (of One Peter Five) can issue scintillating critiques of the (so he says) rampant problematic attitudes within the reactionary (what he calls "traditionalist") movement: exceeding in fury and vehemence almost annihilation written by exterior critics like myself.

And yet he also continues to showroom the usual hallmarks of the radical Cosmic reactionary [see my well-thought out definition]:  rejection of Pope Francis and Vatican II and the Pauline Mass, too equally an unmistakable assertion of the defectibility of the Church, which is rank heresy. He clearly sees the attitudinal problems, simply is and then far utterly bullheaded to the every bit grave theological ones.

In the third paper, I chronicled the passionate negative reaction to Traditionis, and demonstrated how repeated errors in the these reactions (like those of Skojec) reveal and substantially prove the absolute necessity of the reform called for in Traditionis custodes.

We have seen in those reactions and (on my own blog) the impassioned cries of reactionaries and legitimate traditionalists, a constant theme of "it'due south not nearly as bad as what y'all critics are making out!" In other words, in the face up of a critique, the ones in the community beingness critiqued but deny that in that location is much of a problem at all: and, at worst, certainly non enough of a problem (if any troublesome aspects are granted at all) to warrant the measures being taken. It's a massive group demonstration of not seeing the log in ane's collective "eye", just seeing all kinds of specks in the critics' (and the pope's) eyes.

Something doesn't add up, though. How is it that a guy like Steve Skojec: read by millions of reactionaries on his website, which is i of the largest reactionary venues going, can evidence to what he sees as a very troublesome state of affairs within the reactionary world (indeed, across repair, in his opinion)? Is he lying through his teeth? Is he delusional? Is he decumbent to writing mere fantasy? I have him at his word. It'southward his seventeen-twelvemonth experience, and I don't see what possible motivation he would have to lie about such a thing. He gets nothing out of that at all, except for alienation from his own professed community.

Merely if someone wants to dismiss his firsthand report, I submit Fr. Chad Ripperger: a highly regarded traditionalist priest. Lest anyone doubt his bona fide credentials inside the movement, here he is on Dr. Taylor Marshall'due south Y'all Tube show, on fifteen April 2021. Marshall is virtually the poster boy today for the reactionaries. He regularly appears at Lifesite News: some other major reactionary venue. He'south massively cited at Michael Voris' Church Militant: a rabidly reactionary site. Rorate Caeli took note of him (volume review from my friend, Ryan Grant). He'south cited several times at Unam Sanctam Catholicam: a major traditionalist site run by Phillip Campbell, whom I also consider a friend (he has given a talk at my business firm).

So I don't want to hear any nonsense well-nigh "he'southward not a existent traditionalist!" He is . He has all the credentials and is immensely respected in his own ranks. And we shall see that he sees plenty of serious problems within the motility: which, I submit, would support Pope Francis' ascertainment that there is need of reform among the traditionalists / reactionaries for the sake of Church unity. If a critic and a beloved adherent are proverb largely the same matter, is that non a stiff indication that this is where the truth lies? I take Fr. Ripperger at his discussion, just as I take Skojec at his.

For the first example, I cite highlights of "Ten Problems in the Traditionalist Movement": posted on the website for Tumblar House Catholic bookstore on 18 August 2019:

These are simply general problems that you lot see pretty much across the lath in almost every traditionalist apostolate. I just want people to exist enlightened that these are the kinds of issues that we're up against and why it's actually causing damage to the traditional movement . . . there are detail problems that I think really need to exist addressed because they're rather grave, and they are affecting people quite a bit. . . .

Condign GNOSTIC & ELITIST

The showtime has to do with the fact that the traditionalist movement is slowly condign a Gnostic motility past among some, and by Gnostic we mean that they think that only they have this hugger-mugger knowledge that nobody else seems to have or get and somehow at that place's something special well-nigh them because they become it and these other people don't.How practice we know information technology's condign Gnostic? They're constantly looking downwards and bad-mouthing everybody who goes to the New Mass, and things of that sort. Somehow or another they're special. . . .

IMPURITY

Every Gnostic motility e'er suffers from grave problems of the impurity and then is the traditionalist movement. This is a serious trouble. I'm not saying this as my ain perception, although it is true that I noticed this some fourth dimension ago. This is something that traditional priests are starting to talk over because it's becoming a serious problem. Why is this? Well it's pride. Pride is the vice in which a person judges himself greater than he is. . . .

If you lot look at the number of sins against the sixth commandment, sins like cocky-abuse, pornography, fornication, amid traditionalists, they are not any meliorate than the people who become to the New Mass. In fact, there's some estimates by some priests that it'due southworse than is amidst the New Rite people. . . .

Neutralist Attitude

Then at that place's also some other Gnostic side to the traditional movement, and that is this isolationist attitude in relationship to the world.  . . . Gnostics always view everything in the earth every bit bad and this is how traditionalists are becoming. . . . This has never been part of the Catholic religion to be an isolation shunning people and that kind of thing. Why? Because how are you going to evangelize people? How are you honestly going to concenter people to Mass? You're not going to attract people. Why? Because there'southward a natural human psychology. People aren't going to go to some place where they know people are looking down on them . . . .

Many traditionalists deny their children legitimate things because of the fact that it'south an exaggeration, information technology's an excess. So what happens? Well you're ending up with the same kind of phenomenon that y'all're seeing amidst Amish. The kids end up just bolting from the traditional movement considering they just tin can't stand the fact that things that are perfectly okay are being denied from them entirely. So nosotros're having attrition rates amongst them.

Plus there are other problems that the traditional movement has.And don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the traditional movement. I wouldn't be continuing here before you if it wasn't a instance.  I'm just proverb these are problems that are affecting the recouping of the tradition on the side of people exterior of the tradition. Why? If you're not holy, we're non meriting the grace for the people exterior the traditional movement to meet the value of the tradition. And then what's the moral of the story? We're dragging the residue of the church down. That's what it boils down to here. Yous're either part of the trouble or you're office of the solution. . . .

Depression & DESPAIR

What are these some of the other issues? Well, becoming depressed. They sit down and they'll mull over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, and past the way I'm proverb this over and over again so you become the point. How bad everything is in the church. Okay, yep, it's bad, merely information technology's leading to despair. Nosotros may see how bad everything is and then we judge everything to excess. You know "There'due south no hope. The church is never going to recover. Things are just always going to be bad. The Novus Ordo is invalid. At that place's no pope." You simply get on and on and on. And then there's also the problem of allowing the acrimony to eat our life in the view of the church. A lot of people suffer who've come to the traditional movement, simply don't let the sunday get downwardly on your acrimony. In other words, you take to bury the hatchet and forgive people. . . .

ANGER

Anger'southward a real trouble amidst traditionalists. Nosotros take to be sure that the problems in the church do not touch on our clemency, and we accept to stop detracting against the Magisterium. Okay, why? Because in the end it destroys people's ability to the virtue of piety. How can you expect people to desire to submit themselves to Christ's legitimate dominance handed on through the Magisterium if yous're constantly running down the bishops and the priests and the Pope and things of that sort? . . .

Disrespect OF Say-so AND THE MAGISTERIUM

This negative mental attitude towards the Magisterium is one of the reasons why the Magisterium has been so slow to give the states annihilation, because people have had such a negative attitude. They're simply like, well we have to exist careful with what we're giving these people, because they're going to end upwards biting the hand that feeds them. And then they allow their filial devotion to the office of the papacy to wane; that is non making the proper distinctions between the homo and the office. It doesn't matter what the man does. The fact of the affair is we must be faithful and loyal to the part. Very often y'all come across trads disrespecting potency and and so trads wonder why—traditionalist parents will badmouth the Pope with their badmouth some priests or something and and so they wonder why the children have no respect for their parents. Alibi me, but grace flows downhill. If you want your children to have the grace to exist obedient and respectful of you, you have to be obedient and respectful of those above y'all. . . .

Abiding READING OF NEGATIVE MATERIALS

[P]eople  . . .  spend large amounts of time reading every last stitch of literature on how bad everything is. We take an obligation to protect our organized religion and sometimes that even means avoiding people who tell us the truth for which nosotros are unprepared psychologically, spiritually, or intellectually. If reading this stuff drags you downwards, yous've got to get away from it and stop reading it. Nosotros ought to be aware of the problems in the church, just you don't need to read too much for that. . . . And I'll enquire these people, when was the concluding time you read a book on the saints? And they say  "Well I find that literature  irksome or difficult." When was the last fourth dimension you did whatsoever spiritual reading? "Well, you lot know, insta-bed. . . .

LOOSE, RECKLESS ARGUMENTATION

Engaging in argumentation when they are intellectually unprepared out of a desire to defend what they think is truthful. This is a serious problem. I've read so much literature by a traditionalist that has theological error in it because they raced in where they were unprepared to defend. In fact, if you really want to follow the tradition, the tradition was until recently that laypeople were forbidden to engage in public fence regarding theological and philosophical matters unless they had permission from a local bishop. . . .

BULLYING PEOPLE

We have to be sure that we're not ever trying to seek to beat out upwardly on people. This is part of the whole anger thing. Yeah, it'due south true that the country of the church is bad, just that doesn't mean that when y'all see people doing something wrong, you beat up on them. Nosotros must accept that people aren't going to get it. They're just not going to become it because they don't have the grace. You lot cannot run into the value of the item tradition without grace. That ways that because grace is free y'all didn't merit information technology. Yous're here because God chose you, non because somehow you remember you're special. The same affair applies to these other people. He wants united states of america to merit the grace for them. How are we going to exercise this if our spiritual lives aren't in club considering we're aroused, we're impure, we're this or that. If we're non getting our act together spiritually, the traditional movement volition never get off the ground. . . .

DRIVING OTHERS Abroad

. . .Trads, in my experience, tend to drive more than away than they attract very often.And this means that we have to practice some serious self-reflecting about how we're behaving in relationship to other people to brand sure that they are able to see the value of the tradition. And the only way they're going to see the value is if they encounter that we're unlike from everybody else.

Again, this is far more sweeping and condemnatory of mistake than anything I have written, in 25 years of observing the motility and critiquing its errors, because information technology is from someone of say-so and esteem within the movement.

I urge all of you who telephone call yourselves traditionalists: if you won't listen to the pope or to folks like me who offer critiques because we think information technology is in your all-time spiritual involvement, so — for the beloved of God — listen to one of your own. Fr. Ripperger is a neat human; a very wise, spiritual man (and, information technology seems to me, holy as well). His words ring true. He knows what he is talking about. And clearly he has only the all-time interests of the movement he loves at heart.

In any event, I can't imagine a greater verification of the motivations behind, and necessity of, Traditionis custodes than this.

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Photo credit: Fr. Republic of chad Ripperger [Our Sorrowful Mother's Ministry building]

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Summary: Fr. Chad Ripperger is a highly respected and revered effigy within the Catholic self-described traditionalist movement. He offers a scathing critique of its very serious internal problems.

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Source: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2021/07/traditionalist-fr-chad-ripperger-critiques-traditionalism.html